New Stargate In Development

David Read: Welcome to a live simulcast between GateWorld and Dial the Gate. My name is David Read. I am joined by my friend and colleague, Black Square. Actually, let me go ahead and update that here.

Darren Sumner: You gotta zoom me back, too. Whoa.

David Read: Hang on. Don’t get closer! Get further. That’s not fair. All right.

Darren Sumner: Hello, everyone. Wow. There’s actually some Stargate news to talk about.

David Read: More. I know. What the actual heck, man? There’s a lot happening here. I did not have that on my bingo card for the rest of 2026. Had to check the calendar.

Darren Sumner: We knew that it was happening

David Read: To be perfectly honest with you. We knew that they were looking.

Darren Sumner: It was in process.

David Read: Someone actually asked me the other day, “When do you think they’re gonna announce?” And I’m like, “I personally have a feeling that they’re not gonna do this for a couple of years.” They’re looking. They’re saying that they’re looking. I didn’t know that they were actively looking. So, I have thoughts. Actually, I have only formations of thoughts. Should we pull the GateWorld article that you did or should we pull …

Darren Sumner: Yeah.

David Read: … the Variety article that you did?

Darren Sumner: Would you do that? Credit to Variety for breaking the story, but let’s look at the write-up that I posted on Gateworld.net if we could.

David Read: Yes.

Darren Sumner: I’ve pulled in all the details that I was able to find on short notice about the new writer, which is the news that we’re here to talk about.

David Read: That’s it.

Darren Sumner: Variety reports that Amazon MGM Studios has tapped the new writer to bring Stargate back in some form. We don’t know the form. We don’t know yet if it’s a reboot. But here she is. It’s Jac Schaeffer.

David Read: Yes.

Darren Sumner: Jac Schaeffer is the creative behind Marvel’s WandaVision and Agatha All Along.

Darren Sumner: We can look at the news story here. We can look at–

David Read: Can I read this …

Darren Sumner: Yeah, go ahead.

David Read: … what you wrote? Because I’ve not read this.

Darren Sumner: Her credits are interesting. I wanna talk about what she’s done, and it’s not a super long list of credits.

David Read: Let me go ahead and start this here, ’cause I’ve been waiting to get on with you and read this along with everyone else. “Amazon MGM Studios might have found its new creative head to revive the Stargate franchise. Variety reports today that writer and producer Jac Schaeffer is developing a new Stargate television series for the studio, citing unnamed sources. Schaeffer created the offbeat streaming series WandaVision for Disney+, as well as its first spinoff, Agatha All Along. These shows were set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Now Schaeffer will helm another high-profile genre project set in an existing franchise — if the show makes it to air.” I think that that’s a perfectly fair point considering everything that we’ve went through. And that’s when I lost my place here. “Amazon MGM Studios unceremoniously pulled the plug on Martin Gero’s revival of Stargate earlier this year after a newly hired executive reportedly objected to the show. The show wouldn’t appeal widely enough beyond Stargate’s existing global fan base. In that case, the production had completed its writer’s room and was already into preproduction. The original Stargate feature film opened in 1994 and spun off three television series. Schaeffer is an internal hire for the studio. She came over to Amazon MGM Studios from Marvel Studios and 20th Century Television in February, signing a three-year overall deal. Her previous work includes the 2009 Emma Caulfield film Timer, the Disney short Olaf’s Frozen Adventure, and Anne Hathaway and Rebel Wilson’s 2019 comedy The Hustle. WandaVision was nominated for Emmy and Hugo Awards, among others.” Thoughts, initial reactions?

Darren Sumner: My gut reaction is, OK, we knew it was gonna be somebody. This is as much as I’ve seen Stargate fans online sort of bemoaning the particulars of the choice or the creative direction, they think that the new Stargate might go. This was known, right? This is just the other shoe dropping. We suffered cancellation news back in June, and we’ve all been living with the reality that Amazon spent months; spent a couple of years developing Martin Gero’s new show. They had a writer’s room.

David Read: Who knows how many millions.

Darren Sumner: They were getting ready; they were in pre-production, right? They were getting ready to shoot in London in the fall. All that work that we did, all the conversations that we had with Martin and with Joe Mallozzi and Brad Wright. Original creators from Stargate who were back to produce the new show, that plug got pulled. And we knew that when the plug got pulled, based on the reporting, this all went down because Amazon hired a new creative — sort of a middle management over genre television — who didn’t like the direction that Martin and his team were going. Thought that it was not gonna appeal beyond Stargate’s existing fan base. So, we knew that they were going do something with the Stargate brand. And that it was gonna be very different from what we were getting. What we were getting with Martin and his team was a best-case scenario for Stargate fans. It was set in the existing universe. People have opinions about the story as it’s been revealed over the last few weeks, setting at least the first season in a parallel universe. Whatever your opinions about that show and the creative direction were, that was the best-case scenario for Stargate fans; to have the original creators back honoring, respecting the canon, and moving it forward in some way, shape, or form with actors and characters that we know and love.

David Read: That’s it.

Darren Sumner: It’s been revealed since the cancellation that Michael Shanks was gonna be a series regular as Daniel Jackson. So, this is the other shoe dropping. We knew that they were going to do something different with Stargate, and this gives us our first clue as to what that is, and we can talk about that. Sort of a little bit of speculation. I’ve been thinking over this particular choice and what Jac Schaeffer brings to the table, but I wanna hear your top-level gut reaction takeaway.

David Read: Were there a couple of other names announced as well? Just yes, or no? Or was it just that name …

Darren Sumner: Names announced today?

David Read: … for this project? Yeah.

Darren Sumner: Yeah. We have… It’s at the bottom of the news story. The two …

David Read: I wanna get to Jac first.

Darren Sumner: … the two folks from Safe House Pictures who were working with Martin …

David Read: Interesting. So, they’re bringing them on board

Darren Sumner: … on his show are also moving over onto this new show.

David Read: Interesting. Wow. I’m gonna give you my honest opinion on this based on the content that I have seen. I love WandaVision. Loved it. For those who gave up on it, I think that that’s a real shame because they got caught up in the different eras of television. It is a — or those who haven’t seen it — it is a decade-over-decade evolution of television worked into the story, and it is a meditation on grief and the consequences of undigested grief, particularly when it’s occurring to someone with a great deal of power, and the disastrous results that that can cause on a group of people. I loved it. It’s the main reason that I went and saw the new Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. I have not seen Agatha All Along, and so I can’t speak to it specifically, but I loved WandaVision. So, what about you?

Darren Sumner: I thought WandaVision was a great first step for Marvel Television. This was their first streaming series. It was the sort of project that you can’t necessarily do as a two-hour feature film, but as a streaming series it fit great, right? That creative choice of doing a… Like you said, there was an episode that was styled like a ’50s sitcom, and then a ’60s sitcom, and then a ’70s sitcom all the way forward. It was really innovative and inventive and clever. I like WandaVision a lot. I think it was pulled off very well. I did watch Agatha All Along. I’m not the target demographic for that show. I enjoyed parts of it. I enjoyed Agatha’s character and the performance and some of the advancements to the story. Marvel’s doing more with some of those characters. No spoilers. Including in Vision Quest — that’s coming up. It’s gonna be relevant, right? Vision Quest is sort of the capstone for that trilogy on Disney+. Agatha All Along I thought was fine. It was OK.

David Read: But compared to WandaVision, it wasn’t as good?

Darren Sumner: WandaVision was, it was so out of the box. It was, I think, borderline brilliant.

David Read: Folks, there’s a lot of questions in the chat about how to get questions to us. I have a software package running that will allow you to put a question mark in your post in front of the question, and it will route it into my feed here. If you’ve just submitted a question, then go ahead and submit it again. The mods are going to… Apparently, the feed’s moving really quickly, as is understandable. If you have a question for myself or Darren, put a question mark at the beginning of your post in the Dial the Gate live chat, and then ask the question and it’ll get routed into the feed here. The mods are going to do everything that they can to keep up, but for people who didn’t add that, they have to add those in manually.

Darren Sumner: OK, good. And in the GateWorld chat, I’ll keep an eye out if anybody wants to put a question mark at the start of their post.

David Read: I’m gonna be cautious, and I’m gonna be fairly neutral. Everyone is expecting us to say something about the Save Stargate campaign. And there have been a lot of interpretations of it in terms of what it means for people, what it means for me, what it means for you, what it means for others. And I can say definitively — for those who were in the initial planning committee that we had the meeting with after the announcement that Martin Gero’s version was axed — I tried to basically convey that Martin Gero’s project is not going forward. If you think that Save Stargate’s campaign is about saving Martin’s project, that’s fine, but it’s immensely unlikely. What isn’t unlikely is the fandom coming together in a common purpose to push Amazon to consider that the next Stargate that they do have something to do with the Wright-Cooper-Glassner universe. Not be something completely original. Have something to do with it. That’s what I always considered Save Stargate to be. And you got people out there, “Well, it was gonna be this, and now it’s that. And I said…” For me, that’s what it was. It didn’t have to be that for everybody. It doesn’t have to be now. But I consider Martin my friend. I love him very much. I am still on board because I’m a fan of this. And if they can do justice to this with wonder, with humor, with consideration, and have it be something that is in a spirit of enthusiasm and not something that is… Words fail me, of course, at the most inopportune times. But something that is not designed to manipulate me, but designed to have me open up my mind to new possibilities and thoughts. I will be all aboard for that. If it’s something that’s shared in good spirits and not with an intent of subterfuge. This is a message that we want to convey to them and… Because sci-fi, as far as I’m concerned, is all about right versus right or wrong versus wrong, and letting the audience decide, and not being so tied to an idea that, well, we have to convey this idea, and if the audience doesn’t get it, that’s too bad, they’re wrong. It’s about opening up possibilities.

Darren Sumner: For folks who haven’t followed us for two and a half decades that we’ve been doing this, you and I have always made that point that we are first — we have our favorite shows, we have our favorite characters, but first and foremost, we are franchise fans. We’re fans of the Gate. We’re fans of the idea, the conceit and the science fiction universe, and the form of storytelling. And a new show could capture that. Could capture a lot of it.

Darren Sumner: I’m always gonna be an eternal optimist, but I also think it’s premature for us to spend too much time sort of clearing the deck and getting ready to like a new show or be positive about a new show. I think we’re so far away from that. Maybe when we’re watching a trailer for this show, maybe when we have some more information about what it is, we can start to make those judgments. Right now, I really feel like this is the second half of the cancellation news.

David Read: I think that that’s a great point

Darren Sumner: Fans have every right to be pissed off and disappointed in this selection. Now, let me say, nothing personal against Jac Shaeffer and her talent and her creative choices. That’s not what I’m talking about today. I’m talking about the fact that Amazon started a Stargate show, and fans overwhelmingly came out of the woodwork thrilled at the choice that they made to have Martin Gero make this show. And we’re still grieving that loss. So, when your parents get divorced, your mom might marry a new guy. You might have a relationship with him someday, but you’re not gonna be super stoked about it right away. So, we’ll get there, and there’ll be time to have those conversations, I think. There’ll be time to reflect on the new show for whatever it’s gonna be. I also wanna make the point sort of from the business side. Jenny’s not here with us, so let me make a good Jenny comment, which is, let’s not get out over our skis here. The news that Variety has reported is that Amazon MGM Studios has Jac Shaeffer developing a show. That’s pretty much it. There’s also a line in the Variety report that says, “According to Variety’s sources, a writer’s room is gonna be assembled in the near future.” So, that suggests that it’s serious, that maybe she’s pitched an idea that they like. But there’s a difference between reporting a development and reporting a green light for a show. Now, if this show gets a green light, we also know Amazon could pull the plug. That’s what they did last time. So, that’s the ‘I believe it when I’ll see it’ part of me. But it’s in development. It hasn’t been green-lit. It’s not a show yet. And who knows? Amazon might decide to take it to pilot. They might not give it a full series order right away. They might do a pilot. One of the things that I discovered in researching Jac Shaeffer’s recent credits is she’s been attached to a lot of different projects that haven’t gone or that haven’t gone yet, or she’s moved on and they’ve gone to other creators. She apparently directed a pilot for a new Disney+ adaptation of Holes, that classic 1990s kids’ novel. They were doing a series, so Disney apparently commissioned a pilot, and she ended up directing it for one reason or another. She wasn’t the writer or the creator, but she directed the pilot, and the show didn’t go. It didn’t get picked up. That’s what happens with pilots. So, I would encourage everyone to keep your powder dry, as they say, until it’s actually a show. And then we can start to evaluate sort of, OK, what are the decisions being made? What is this show? Does it have what you and I might think is the heart of Stargate in it?

David Read: There’s so much to consider here right now, and we’re all trying to keep up. I think that it’s important to not get out over our skis on this. Let’s go ahead and keep in mind that there is a long way to go on this thing, and that it’s… Any number of things can happen at this point. But as far as I am concerned, once they go into production on this thing and they start filming, at this point I’ll start possibly rooting for it — regardless of content — only because we’ve been burned at this point so many times by so many regimes. There was something before Stargate Origins. Then we had Stargate Origins. Then there was one or two projects with Brad, and then there was another one. And then it was Martin Gero’s project, and now it’s this. And at a certain point, you have to slow down and say, “I’m through zigzagging back and forth on this.” And we will see what happens.

Darren Sumner: Amazon has made a decision over the summer in canceling Martin’s show that they’re gonna have to pay for over the long term.

Darren Sumner: It’s clear to me watching social media and watching fans react to the news, it’s flipped. We had 95% positive response to Martin’s show, and now it’s 95% negative so far. And I understand that. Amazon has made a decision that they’re gonna have to live with. And the decision was apparently — based on the reporting — that Martin’s show was not gonna appeal to enough fans, or to enough viewers outside the core fan base. What they get instead is by burning that show — and especially if they do something that does end up being completely different. Let’s say it ends up being a reboot. Then what is the choice that they’ve made? What are the consequences that they’re gonna suffer? They are not gonna have the core fan base at all. They’re gonna have to bring this show to market against some fans.

David Read: It’s Stargate Universe all over again. So, let’s go back. Many any of you may not have even been born. I think your news article is still available to be read. We should really link to it. “Atlantis Canceled, Universe Green-lit,” I’m pretty sure was the title. There are reasons that Atlantis was canceled. Everyone has their own. There are two or three different silos of reasons. We’re not gonna get into those here. But there was a huge chunk of Stargate fandom that were very dedicated to Atlantis that were left with the impression that Atlantis was being taken from them, and the Stargate fan was being given something new to play with. To the point where I do think that the backlash and the boycott of the new show ultimately destroyed the new show from having a chance beyond the first two seasons. ‘Cause they were guaranteed two out of the gate — pardon the pun — if the first one cleared a certain rating, which the first season did. But only years and years later did a number of Stargate fans come back together and admit, “You know what? I eventually got around to seeing it, and I really did like it.” But because of the optics of how it was delivered, to say nothing of one or two of the folks who worked on Atlantis who encouraged the fan base to behave in much of the way it did. Bottom line is, we’re about to experience that again. One of the reasons that I was hoping that this would take a breather for two or three years was to give everyone a chance to lick their wounds and go off and frankly watch some other programming and, not forget about what happened with Gero’s project, but to at least have some distractions for a little while to give us something to reset with. And it’s Universe all over again. And if they think – they being the powers that be — think that they’re going to do this without some significant scratches from the fan base clawing at them for having done this, they’re wrong. And you can judge the number of fans globally — I’m sure they have a number of hardcore and less hardcore fans — but this fan base has already done it once before, and it already killed what was in my mind a perfectly good show that had its flaws like every first couple of seasons of a show does, but was going somewhere. I don’t want that to happen to whatever comes next.

Darren Sumner: The comparison’s interesting

David Read: And there it is.

Darren Sumner: I don’t agree with the thesis that the backlash to SGU killed SGU. It certainly didn’t help. It was a rough period for fandom, that’s for sure. It certainly played a part. But that analogy is, I think, spot on. It was an impossible task to pose to Amazon buying Stargate 15 years after SGU went off the air to make something that was gonna unify everybody, to bring in viewers of those shows and new viewers. And we spent the first half of this year blown away that they somehow had managed to do it. That everybody …

David Read: They threaded the needle and came out the other side

Darren Sumner: … almost everybody. I don’t wanna speak for all of fandom, but almost everybody was, if not thrilled, at least cautiously optimistic about the show that they were gonna produce. It was an impossible task, and they came absolutely as close as they could, as was humanly possible to get a hole in one. And so, they’ve scratched that now, and they’re trying something completely different. And not only is it not going to — this is where I get pessimistic — not only is it not going unite all the existing groups within Stargate fandom, but it’s gonna create new divisions. Now we’re gonna get fans of the new show and fans of classic Stargate and fans of SGU versus fans of this, that, or the other thing. I was hoping that the new show was gonna heal some wounds, and now it looks like it’s going in the opposite direction.

David Read: We’re going in the opposite direction. I cannot hammer it home enough. The two years where Stargate Universe was on the air, those were hard. You and I were called every name in the book for helping to promote that show. We didn’t care. I don’t care still to this day. But every time we were promoting it or had anything positive to say about it, or were interacting with the fans, you had this gulf between… It was two years of absolute war. And it was hell. And I don’t wanna go through that again. But I’m not getting off of this ride. So, it looks like we are.

Darren Sumner: It’s not fun to cover.

David Read: No. I had David Blue on–

Darren Sumner: I hope that the show’s good.

David Read: Sorry?

Darren Sumner: I hope that the show is good.

David Read: It doesn’t matter.

Darren Sumner: But it doesn’t matter. For you and I …

David Read: That will help

Darren Sumner: … we’re committed with this franchise.

David Read: Right.

Darren Sumner: I got a comment on GateWorld. One of the first comments on the news story was questioning whether GateWorld should be giving this airtime.

David Read: See?

Darren Sumner: Whether we should be reporting on the news …

David Read: Should you platform

Darren Sumner: … of what Amazon is doing lighting the franchise on fire. I get it. I understand the sentiment, and part of me definitely shares it. But we’ve been covering the franchise for 27 years.

David Read: That’s right. We are gonna approach it with good faith. You’re coming up on your anniversary.

Darren Sumner: So, we’re gonna do our best to be objective and to continue to be a voice for fandom. Because every time we talk about the new show, guess what? We’re gonna talk about the one that we wanted that they canceled. We’re not here to be Amazon’s PR. Even if they invite us into the circle and we visit the set and decide that we love the idea, we’re not gonna be Amazon’s PR. This is all in the context of you offered something wonderful, and then shot it in front of us.

David Read: I had David Blue on — was it earlier this year? I had him on earlier. Even this year. Go back and read the… He did something which he shouldn’t have done, which is he read the comments. And you don’t read the– You don’t care what other people th[ink]– Don’t… This is the thing about actors, man, that you shouldn’t, don’t care what other people think about you. Doesn’t matter. What they think about you, what fans think about us is none of our business. What they think about you isn’t your… You don’t know them. You don’t know what kind of state that they’re going through. And this desire to, “I must respond. Must take the flaming sword of righteousness and shine it into the darkness.” You and I have a role in this, and it’s to keep our heads down and write and report. And that’s what we’re gonna do. All that I’ve said up to this point is to illustrate so that as we move forward with this thing, no one will be under any illusions of what’s going to happen next. As far as I’m concerned, I hope that everyone gives this thing a chance. But this is such a passionate fandom. You have no idea. And the more that you embrace them, the more they will embrace you. But let me tell you something. It’s gonna be vinegar-flavored, and there is gonna be a desire to say, “You know what? F them.” Don’t. Don’t. As far as Darren and I are concerned, that’s not gonna be the case. And I invite every fan within the sound of my voice to make good ripples with every chance that you get. And for some people, that’s being feisty, so

Darren Sumner: Can we talk about–

David Read: It’s not gonna be boring.

Darren Sumner: There are a few details that I wanna get into here that are related to some of the questions that I’m seeing on the GateWorld side, and I’m curious what folks are posting on Dial the Gate in the chat. One of the critiques that has been leveled — evidently by Marvel fans — at Jac Schaeffer and her creative choices is that she’s apparently on the record with comments that she’s not a comic book reader. She didn’t go into WandaVision to adapt any existing source material. She, she kind of avoid… It seems to have avoided the source material to tell the sort of story that she wanted to tell. So how does that relate to Stargate? Does that suggest that she’s the sort of creative who is gonna go out of her way to avoid the source material and do something brand new set in a Stargate universe?

David Read: Is that rhetorical?

Darren Sumner: No, I’m asking you. But let me give credit here to DoctorPine570, who says, “The creator of WandaVision has tweeted that she does not believe in canon. That doesn’t match her personal values.” What are your thoughts on this?

David Read: Personal values.

Darren Sumner: So, I think based on the comments that I found in the few minutes that I had to look it up around WandaVision, she came into it wanting to tell that story that you described, the story of grief. What happens when a character who has near-godlike powers goes through that experience of loss and grief. That’s, in my opinion, a worthy story to tell. In my opinion, it was told very well. But I understand if you’re a long-term fan of Scarlet Witch and the story of her children and the source material and the comics, that’s not even an adaptation of the comics. That’s taking the source material as raw materials — the pulp of the character and the abilities and the names — and doing something brand new with it. How do you feel about that, and is it what you think we might be in for with Stargate?

David Read: Personal values. Brandon Braga was told by Rick Berman — I don’t know if he knew Gene. I think Brandon did know Gene a little bit. He was told, “Do not watch the original. We want something new. We want something different.” It was still in the spirit of that which came before. The spirit of your work is gonna be led by your personal values. We have this conflation idea that personal is political for everything now. It must say something. That’s the thing about science fiction. You get to make it a little bit more cerebral and get to say something with it. You can make it really popcorn and fun, like Strange New Worlds, teetering on lack of any substance. Or you can go so cerebral with Annihilation that you alienate the average movie going audience and it… It’s a brilliant movie, but it’s so beyond what so many people can take in that there’s no way that it’s gonna get mass acceptance. And you’ve got those two continuums there. And with a series order of 10 episodes or something like that, you can do a bunch of things while still threading a narrative path. I don’t care whether or not her and her team watch existing Stargate. I care whether or not it’s in the spirit of Stargate. And that is found family, a show that the entire family can watch, a show that doesn’t take itself too seriously, that’s lighthearted with humor but is still willing to go there in terms of some major ideas. When I went and visited Martin’s writing team, one of the things when I sat down with them and I said, what I told them is, “I demand that you challenge me. I want to hear your ideas coming through these characters. But I also believe that if you don’t have faith in humanity, if you think that it’s not worth saving and that we get what we deserve, we should be destroyed in the darkness, you have no business writing science fiction.” So, I think that if you approach us with a good story in good faith to entertain and not to manipulate — ’cause we feel it. We feel it in terms of how the characters interact with each other. They’re leaning in one certain direction or another direction, and it’s like, this is… I’m feeling like I’m being effed with. If it’s in good faith, I’m on board.

Darren Sumner: What are folks posting over on Dial the Gate? What kind of questions are you seeing?

David Read: Okey-dokey. ILurvMV, “David and Darren, even though the original creators, writers are not involved, do you think there’s any chance that the original cast and characters could still be in this?” No. I don’t believe so. Let me see here.

Darren Sumner: I think they saw a monetary reason for it, and they could give somebody a big enough paycheck for a cameo. Or if they felt like they needed to throw a bone to the fans. I don’t know.

David Read: Emily Chin.

Darren Sumner: I wouldn’t rule it out entirely, but folks are asking, OK, so is this a reboot? Are we talking about a reboot? Let’s be specific. We don’t know. We have no idea. All we know is the name of the creative person according to Variety who’s been tapped to develop the show, and her track record with other universes. We don’t know if it’s gonna be a reboot, but I feel like, you know what? That ship probably sailed a while ago. We didn’t want a reboot. We got Martin Gero’s show, which was not gonna be a reboot. And then they took it out back to the woodshed. And so I expect it to be a reboot.

David Read: Michael Shanks is on record in a soon-to-be-released video that we’re gonna release in the very near future on A Full Circle about eight days from now, and I quote, “This was always gonna be a soft reboot,” a la Jurassic World. Those other characters, they exist, but we’re focusing on these characters now. And in the case of Stargate 4 — what Martin was developing — those other characters were gonna exist in an alternate reality, and some of them could come through. Others we’d see potentially in this reality as those actors. But that’s what we’re gonna be reporting on A Full Circle when that launches. Where was this other question here? GateGabber, “Have either of you seen anything more than the Variety article at this point? The only other things I have seen are Darren’s article and a couple of sources quoting Variety.” I think that that’s it, Linda, as far as I’ve seen. Have you seen anything else, Darren, at this point?

Darren Sumner: Not yet. It was a Variety exclusive. So, we’ll watch the trades and see if they can match the reporting. But usually what happens when there’s an exclusive inside like this, Hollywood Reporter and others, some of the sci-fi sites, genre sites that you might follow will pick up the news and report it, like GateWorld did today. I’ll be interested to see if anybody has any other sources that wanna talk about her participation in Stargate, but we should also be clear this is not an Amazon announcement. This is trade news.

David Read: That’s right.

Darren Sumner: People are talking off the record behind the scenes with reporters. That’s the only reason we know about this right now, and not in six months.

David Read: IanZenia has an interesting point. Wright and Mallozzi had very different careers pre-Stargate. Kids shows, melodramas, et cetera. That’s an interesting perspective. They’re also fans of science fiction. They’re fans of the genre. If you’re not a fan of the genre, then I don’t have a lot of faith that you can necessarily… Unless you can learn to be, I suppose. You can learn to create in that vein. If this is the person that created WandaVision, I have hope. Because I thought about that show for a long time after I finished it, and it sat with me for a really long time.

Darren Sumner: But you and I, again, you and I are not invested in the source material of Marvel Comics.

David Read: That’s true. That’s true. But it’s an adaptation. This thing that’s on the page, it’s not necessarily designed to be brought before you, and what’s brought before you doesn’t negate what’s on the page. This shortsighted thought process that, well, this is the thing now, then somehow I’m supposed to betray the thing that has come before. It’s all fake. It’s all fake. What matters is how real these people are in your mind and the experiences that you’ve taken with you. Frodo didn’t go through the Gray Havens, you know? This was a shared narrative that we all have together. And you can create Jack and Daniel again, but the whole point of it, as far as I’m concerned, is for it to be in the spirit of that which we originally fell in love with. Otherwise, why are you naming it Stargate? There’s no other reason to beyond… You’re naming it that because you want the brand recognition of the IP, which means that you’re going to have to provide something of that. Make it a triangle for God’s sake. Whatever it is — it was actually originally a triangle — it has to be of that flavor, and it has to be presented in good faith. As long as it is, I’m on board. No one can change my mind. And if they’re not on board, that’s OK.

Darren Sumner: Some of these franchises that we know and love, and we watch content from these franchises, sci-fi and fantasy stuff especially, they’re big. There’s a lot of storytelling happening in the Star Wars universe. I like a lot of it. I don’t like all of it. There’s a lot of storytelling happening in the Marvel universe. I like a lot of it. Some of it’s pretty terrible. I’m not naming names, but have you seen She-Hulk?

David Read: No. It didn’t interest me. Anything that has twerking in it, I’m like, “That’s not for me.”

Darren Sumner: Exactly. So, the point is, as a franchise grows into something that has lots of different creatives who are making contributions and telling different kinds of stories in different media, we’re not gonna like everything. That’s the way it is.

David Read: They’re not supposed to.

Darren Sumner: I wish I loved every Star Wars movie that I paid 15 bucks for, but I don’t. And I think that’s where Stargate’s going. It’s maturing into the next level of its life as IP where different people are gonna have control over it. And are gonna contribute stories. And it’s not gonna be forever. It’s not gonna be the last Stargate show that’s ever made. It doesn’t say that a brilliant creator like Terry Matalas can’t come in and do a kick-ass season.

David Read: After how many years of Star Trek doing other things? And that’s a great point that you’ve not really tackled because if this one is a success, who’s to say that they couldn’t come back and do something else with one of the previous folks or characters who played something? I think it’s awfully shortsighted to go gunning for this one because it’s not what you want. Maybe their perspective is, “If you’re not gonna do it my way, then don’t do it at all. Then I’m gonna go scorched earth.” That’s not me.

Darren Sumner: So, as John Crichton might say, “Wait for the wheel.”

David Read: I beg your pardon?

Darren Sumner: Wait for the wheel.

David Read: Way for the wheel.

Darren Sumner: It’s gonna keep turning.

David Read: Oh…

Darren Sumner: Wait for the wheel.

David Read: Wait.

Darren Sumner: David Q. Reed, you need to watch Farscape.

David Read: It’s on my list.

Darren Sumner: I’m sick of your list. It’s 2026.

David Read: This is true.

Darren Sumner: OK, what else? Any other questions that we ought to talk about?

David Read: Let me see here.

Darren Sumner: How about the Joby and Tory of it all? NPC_Otter, excuse me. “Why aren’t you talking about the usurpers, Joby Harold and Tory Tunnell?” Praeshal asks, “With the involvement of two people that were involved with Gero’s vision, is there any chance that they keep anything that team developed?”

David Read: By who?

Darren Sumner: I don’t think they’re keeping anything that Martin’s team developed. But the two folks from Safe House Pictures were production partners. So, part of the logistics of getting a show up and running and moving down the tracks. And I think they have a deal with Amazon. So, Amazon’s gonna shift them over from one project to another.

David Read: That was an amazing team. I was really impressed with Safe House. I was really impressed.

Darren Sumner: Good.

David Read: And one of the things that I felt was so damning was that all of those people were not gonna get to work on that project. I was like, “What’s gonna happen to them?” They were so talented. So many of them were really young and bright-eyed, and it was like, “Oh, man.” I couldn’t wait to share these people with everyone in a couple of years. So, anyone that was involved with that team, I’m interested. And that’s where we’re at with that. Do you have any other thoughts?

Darren Sumner: I wouldn’t read too much into their involvement, though. CarltonPeacockJesusFollower asks, “What if they did a reboot? Would that really be that bad?” We’ve been kind of talking around this. If it’s a reboot, would it be that bad? And Jim in the GateWorld chat, please don’t misunderstand me. I’m not saying that we’re gonna take whatever they shovel out because we’re franchise fans. I’m saying I’m old enough now and I’ve seen enough bad shows and movies in franchises that I love that I no longer expect to love everything Stargate. I hope that it’s good. I hope that it’s something that is gonna spark conversation, that it’s telling interesting stories, that it’s good sci-fi.

David Read: I can only speak to myself. I’m a reporter. There were tons of episodes of Atlantis that to this day I’ve only seen twice. I flat out don’t care for. A few from SG-1 and a couple from Universe. But I’m a series fan and a franchise fan all the same. And it’s not created just for me. That’s OK.

Darren Sumner: I think Origins is a pretty good example of this. It’s kind of a test case in miniature. A 10-part web series that was cut together into a 90-minute movie that you can now watch on streaming. Stargate Origins was made in 2017, 2018 by a new group of creatives. MGM took the reins of Stargate for the moment for this one project and handed them to a new group of people and said, “Tell a cool story.” And some fans thought it was fine. A lot of fans continue to trash it. Some fans don’t recognize it as Stargate at all. And that’s OK. It has its place in the history of the franchise. It was a story that was told. They didn’t spend a whole lot of money on it as this web content. It’s an interesting parallel because again, the studio is handing the reins of Stargate to somebody who was not involved in the original feature film or the original television series and saying, “Come up with something cool. Tell a cool story in this universe that we can sell.” How that turns out, it could be Origins. It could be great.

David Read: OK. And the last point that I wanna deliver is one that’s been brought up here casually. Sandra: “Why do you think this was announced so soon?” I think that the Save Stargate campaign has been effective. I think that’s why. I think that there was someone somewhere who was saying, “Solve this.” So, we’re about to see, I think, some of the fruits of that. So, we’ll see what happens. But I do think that played a part. You?

Darren Sumner: I would say it was not announced. Again, this was a reporter who got sources to talk off the record. So, Jac Shaeffer’s not announced anything, has not commented publicly as of this date. Amazon MGM Studios hasn’t said anything about this. There has not been an announcement. And for those of you who don’t watch the trades all the time like I do, like Jenny does, Deadline and Hollywood Reporter and Variety and all these publications, I’m watching their feeds daily. This is the normal turn of television production. Literally we could get six months down the line and this creator could be off doing a different project.

David Read: Yep! Happens all the time. How many revolving doors did Star Wars productions go through? There have been more movies announced than have been released.

Darren Sumner: It’s a revolving door. Tell me about the Game of Thrones creators, Benioff and Weiss.

David Read: Benioff and Weiss.

Darren Sumner: Tell me about their Star Wars trilogy. How did you enjoy those films? Well, they never got made. They were in development until they weren’t. So, that’s all this is right now is somebody’s been hired to develop a project, and that project may or may not ever happen. And I, again, don’t want us to, as a fandom, get out over our skis.

David Read: We’re here to share the information and spend a little bit of time together and continue to process the news from June for sure.

Darren Sumner: I enjoy the ability to do it live with hundreds of Stargate fans. And you, my brother. I haven’t gotten to see you very much lately.

David Read: I know.

Darren Sumner: I’ve been working my butt off, and you have been cranking to get ready for the launch of A Full Circle.

David Read: I have spent six, seven hours with Shanks in the past two weeks. The dude’s got a gallows sense of humor. My God.

Darren Sumner: Yes, he does.

David Read: There have been stories. We have a couple of pieces coming out that will be out on Patreon first, not this Saturday, but the following, after our live stream with him on the 17th, that he doesn’t hold back on the cancellation of Gerro’s project. There are some F-bombs that get dropped. He’s very passionate about it, and we talk about his casting as Daniel for at least a half an hour. And these are not in our core discussion. These are extras. These are side conversations. Those will all be released the following Tuesday, and that’s gonna be on A Full Circle on the Facebook channel on Tuesday the 20th. But we’ve recorded “Children of the Gods” one and two. We’ve spoken with Jonathan Glassner already. We’ve got a few other folks
in the can and ready to go. And we’re very excited. But there’s a lot going on. And I’m bringing in William here, if I can mute his video real quick. Hang on a second here. Hide. William, can you hear us?

William Murphy: Yes, sir.

David Read: Hey, buddy. How are you?

William Murphy: Hey, how are you doing?

David Read: I’m good. We wanted to wrap this up with something a little bit lighter. Folks, thank you so much for your questions. We’re closed on that for the time being. And I cannot thank our mod teams enough. This is tremendous. And we’re gonna get to thanking everyone, all of the folks who help pull this off week in and week out, pretty quickly here. I want to introduce you to a piece of software that my friend Ian Bernardo has been working on. And you guys know, maybe you don’t, this is one of the reasons I’m doing this right now. I wanted to infuse this chat and this group of people with something fun before we say goodbye to each other. So, this is stargatetrivia.com. I purchased it earlier this year. I still can’t believe that I got it, that it was available. For all of those of you who have …

Darren Sumner: Let’s do this.

David Read: … tried it in the past, I have made it so that you can turn the countdown off. So, for those of you who are having countdown anxiety, that is gone. But not for these guys.

Darren Sumner: It’s real.

David Read: We’re gonna turn it on. So, guys, pull your emails up and I’m going to add stargatetrivia.com/host. So, if you have a Stargate friend in your life who’s over distance — or a group of you, or 10 of you, or more, and you wanna play in real time with each other, here’s how you do it. So, Ian Bernardo and I got… He was the one who… He turned around and gave this to me. This was something that I had made a passing comment, and then lo and behold, the Swiss will Swiss, and this thing comes out. So, I’ve really been proud of this and wanted to share it with y’all. We’re gonna play really quickly here. This has all the questions, all 2,002 of them in it. You can set the difficulty level. You can turn the countdown on and off. You can change it. Everyone can add their own pictures and everything else. You can look for specific questions that you can search for, and add them. You add pluses over here or take them off. Or maybe what the–

Darren Sumner: So, I can create my own quiz and challenge my friends with it?

David Read: You can create your own quiz. That’s right.

David Read: So, this is what we’re gonna be playing Stargate trivia with in the next couple of weeks here. So, let’s… William, do you wanna play?

William Murphy: I’d love to play a game.

David Read: All right. So, we’re gonna do a randomizer. That’s 15 queued questions. You know what? SGA and SGU are turned off. Let me switch those back on here.

William Murphy: Darren, it’s good to see you, by the way.

David Read: Darren, can you hear him?

Darren Sumner: Just barely. Say again, William.

David Read: He says it’s good to see you.

Darren Sumner: My friend, it’s good to see you, or at least see your name on my screen.

David Read: All right. So, I’ve pulled in some random questions here. And guys, I’m going to go ahead and email you the link that was generated for it. You click on copy link and send that. And so, do you guys have access to your emails?

Darren Sumner: OK.

William Murphy: Sure do.

David Read: OK. William, can you turn up your volume a little bit, buddy?

William Murphy: Yeah, sure.

David Read: OK. Or get closer to your mic. All right. Let me stop sharing virtually so I can look at this. Says waiting for players to join. So, this says up to 50. Ian, I think that’s a little ambitious, my friend, but I’ll go for it. So, let me go ahead and do this here. So, it’ll give you guys an opportunity. You can add a photo if you wanted, but go ahead and put your names in. You can do this on your phone. I personally love it on my phone. I have a link on the main page here. I think it’s the prettiest thing when you can see it. Anyway. You guys in yet? SuperCereal#1 is in. That’s good.

William Murphy: Good start.

David Read: Yeah, I’ll take it.

William Murphy: Is that volume better, by the way?

David Read: Yes. Thank you, sir. Darren, can you hear him a little bit now?

Darren Sumner: Yep.

William Murphy: Excellent.

Darren Sumner: Join game.

David Read: Darren@GateWorld#2.

Darren Sumner: World game master.

David Read: And you used a photo. Look at that. Awesome. Very, very nice. All right. So, let’s play real quickly here. It’s been a few minutes together.

Darren Sumner: OK. It says waiting for game to start.

David Read: Let’s take this down to 15 seconds and make it a little heart-pounding. And here we go.

Darren Sumner: Wait, 15 seconds? What?

David Read: Yep. Current question: what is the Pegasus term for a Wraith attack on a human colony?

William Murphy: We taking turns here?

David Read: Go ahead and put in your answers now.

William Murphy: OK. I see what we’re doing now.

Darren Sumner: So, it’s gonna tell us who got it right? David, are you playing?

David Read: I am not playing. How many Stargate chevrons are required to lock onto another chevron in the same galaxy? All right. In “Rising,” how many children are first found in the woods? Darren, what do you think the answer is?

Darren Sumner: Found in the woods? I don’t even remember this scene.

David Read: In “Rising.”

Darren Sumner: In “Rising.”

William Murphy: That’s with the night vision goggles.

Darren Sumner: Found in the woods? I got a guess.

William Murphy: Got it wrong.

Darren Sumner: What was the answer?

David Read: Question four. Two. Who emerges from hyperspace at the close of “Exodus?” Apophis was the answer. Question five: in “Rising,” what jewelry piece of Teyla’s did Sheppard find?

William Murphy: This is like speed chess trivia here.

David Read: Exactly. We’re beta testing this, guys.

Darren Sumner: Man, this is tough.

David Read: I have to go back to Ian and say, “OK, I want this fixed.”

Darren Sumner: We’re good.

David Read: “I want this fixed.” Question six: in “First Strike,” Weir severs the connection with Asuras due to a…?

Darren Sumner: I don’t understand the question.

David Read: The answer is, virus upload. Pick one of the four.

William Murphy: ‘Cause when he was talking to Oberoth they cut the connection ’cause they were trying to upload a virus.

David Read: Question seven: How many chevrons are required to lock into a planet in another galaxy? The answer is eight. Question eight: What habit does Jack admit he ended between the feature film and the pilot?

William Murphy: Where’s the crippling Faberge egg addiction on that?

David Read: Smoking. Number nine: What did Dr. McKay say after injecting himself with the Wraith enzyme?

Darren Sumner: These are all good answers.

William Murphy: That’s the thing.

David Read: I came up with them myself, thank you very much.

Darren Sumner: I wanna see David Hewlett …

David Read: All 2,000 released ones

Darren Sumner: … do all of these.

David Read: Lock and load is the answer.

Darren Sumner: Lock and load.

David Read: Question 10: Who packed a dead colleague’s possessions at the end of “Sunday?”

Darren Sumner: This is supposed to be a happy way to end the stream. Don’t make me sad.

David Read: It was a randomizer. Blame the software. The answer is Rodney. Number 11: Whose catchphrase is, “Chevron seven locked?”

Darren Sumner: This is very fast.

David Read: Number 12: Who destroys Anubis’s weapons platform in “Redemption,” Part 2?

Darren Sumner: Shoot. It’s William’s fault.

William Murphy: Five and out, Click.

Darren Sumner: It’s going so fast.

David Read: It shouldn’t be. You guys should have all 15 …

Darren Sumner: Weapons platform

David Read: … seconds for each. The answer is Rya’c. 13 out of 15. What is McKay carrying when he arrives at his sister’s house for the first time? Two more questions after this. Darren, what’s the answer?

Darren Sumner: Flowers.

David Read: That’s right. And William, who carries a large blaster at Atlantis?

William Murphy: Size doesn’t matter, but I’m gonna go with our boy Ronon here.

David Read: There we go. And finally, what race created the Asurans, Darren?

Darren Sumner: Does any of us really create anyone else?

David Read: If you wanna get existential, I understand what you’re saying.

Darren Sumner: That was the Ancients.

David Read: That’s it.

Darren Sumner: Specifically, the Lantean branch of the Ancients.

David Read: OK. Quiz complete.

Darren Sumner: I got 12.

David Read: And can you see how many William got?

Darren Sumner: SuperCereal got 13.

David Read: That’s it.

Darren Sumner: Champion.

William Murphy: Five and out.

David Read: That’s it. He’s good at this, man. That’s awesome, guys. What do you think of our little toy here, William?

William Murphy: I really enjoy this new functionality.

David Read: I do too.

William Murphy: Being able to set up a quick host game and doing something online. This is really fun.

David Read: That’s it. It’s something fun for all of us to have here. And I can’t thank William enough for making my dream come true to actually pull this off and make this possible. Because I’ve really wanted to create something positive for all of us. So, you can go to stargatetrivia.com and play now. There’s 2,002 questions in there, or you can host your own game at stargatetrivia.com/host. So, that’s a little fun to finish the evening with. William, thank you …

Darren Sumner: That’s a ton of fun.

David Read: … for coming on. William, before we let you go, what do you think about this news?

William Murphy: In a quick sentence, I would say I am optimistically conflicted.

Darren Sumner: I like that.

William Murphy: If that makes any sense at all.

Darren Sumner: I like that.

David Read: Optimistic and conflicted, or conflicted about being optimistic maybe, but optimistically conflicted?

William Murphy: Optimistically conflicted.

David Read: I’ll have to unpack that one, buddy.

William Murphy: Everyone chat.

Darren Sumner: This will not be the last footwear to fall.

David Read: … footwear to fall. That’s it. Thanks, William, for coming on.

Darren Sumner: That’s for sure.

William Murphy: Thanks to you both. It’s great to see you.

David Read: Thank you, William.

William Murphy: Take care.

David Read: You take care of yourself, buddy. Darren, are there any people on your end that we need to take a moment to thank?

Darren Sumner: A huge thanks to all of GateWorld’s members. Not just to our mods who’ve been in the chat, Hellcats and Raj and anybody else that I didn’t notice over the last hour. Thank you for being here on no notice. But also, GateWorld’s members. You guys are extra amazing, those of you who are currently on the GateWorld membership list. Because for folks who don’t know, I moved over the summer. I started a new job in a new part of the country, and it’s been a wonderful experience, but also, it’s been really straining obviously for GateWorld. So, I’m getting back on my feet. GateWorld is gonna start putting out content more regularly again in the near future. But I’m blown away that these folks… I expected people to pretty much dip when I stopped posting content. I think GateWorld’s membership has gone up. And for whatever reason, I don’t know, other than this fandom is amazing, and you guys are incredible for supporting independent creators like me and David.

David Read: This is true.

Darren Sumner: So, thank you. Thank you for keeping at it, keeping the flame lit, keeping optimistic. We are coming back. I’ll come back and get some new videos posted. Actually, weirdly, I have videos that I recorded in my old house several months ago on the other side of the country.

David Read: So, it’s gonna be looking weird for a little bit.

Darren Sumner: That’ll be weird. And I’m also, right outside this door, I have a friend who is helping me build out a new studio. So, this is going to be my son’s bedroom. Hopefully by Christmastime or the first of the year, GateWorld’s gonna have a brand-new office and recording studio to work out of.

David Read: You know what? It just dawned on me.

Darren Sumner: I’ll give you a tour.

David Read: I’m looking forward to it. I’ll be coming over the… You mean on the… Yes. OK, on the… It dawned on me you’re not in the same room that you were in. You picked a space with the walls, and you put everything right where it was before. Wait a second, he’s not in Washington anymore.

Darren Sumner: It’s similar. Can you spot the difference? Go watch a GateWorld video and see if you can spot the difference.

David Read: OK. For sure. I will do that. I cannot give thanks enough to my team of Patreons who have helped me since this past April start to pull this thing off week in and week out. I was in a very different place this past March with my finances and trying to figure everything out, and basically realizing that I wasn’t going to be able to continue Dial the Gate at the pace sustaining that that I had been before. These folks really helped bail me out. My tremendous thanks to my moderators, Antony, Lockwatcher, Marsha, Raj, Jacob, Enigma, Stephen, Lord Thoth. You guys are helping me pull off these shows continually. Sergei for my software and for all the work that he’s doing on AFC. Tilemachos for having my back on a number of the different projects that I’m working on right now. I’m finally learning DaVinci for A Full Circle. Sarah Black, she has my back. She’s helping me with social media for A Full Circle. And tomorrow we’re gonna be debuting the opening credits sequence for that project as well as its theme. It’s something that I’m really proud of. And there’s a lot of good things heading everyone’s way. Appreciate y’all.

Darren Sumner: Gives us something to talk about, right? Which was your goal and it was Michael Shanks’ goal in creating the new podcast that is launching next week, A Full Circle. Because we don’t have a new Stargate show to talk about, we’re gonna have a new Stargate podcast to talk about. And we’re gonna talk about the episodes that we know and love. And we’re gonna hear stories from these guys that …

David Read: So many stories

Darren Sumner: … I’ve been in this for 30 years. I’m gonna hear stories I know that I haven’t heard before.

David Read: His brain is so quick. The stuff that he was able to pull up… I have notes and I have notes here of every person that he brings up. Darren, do you know who Amanda Tapping was in contention with at the very end to play Carter? Do you know that?

Darren Sumner: For casting?

David Read: Uh-huh. Do you know who was a hair’s breadth and some air away from playing Samantha Carter? And it’s not the gal in Shades of Gray who beat her out of the position at the SGC.

Darren Sumner: The only names that I know of any specific actors who were up for roles is because I heard them talk about it on Dial the Gate. So, I would guess Kendall Cross, but I have no idea. Claudette Mink, I’ve never heard of. She was never on Stargate, was she?

David Read: She was not. No. She was in Fringe. She was in Battlestar for an episode. And that’s one piece of information.

Darren Sumner: All the history that’s gonna come out in this show is phenomenal. Can’t wait.

David Read: Lawrence Dane, who played General Bauer, was also flown down alongside Don S. Davis–

Darren Sumner: To read for Hammond?

David Read: To audition, to read for Hammond.

David Read: And he played him that way. He played him like he played General Bauer. So, when we got Larry Dane in Season Four, that made total sense. That would’ve been a very different take on Hammond. As of right now, three or four hours already recorded. These names keep coming out and I can’t keep up fast enough. I’m gonna have to introduce a bubble underneath that will give people additional information so that we can keep up. It’s something that I did with Dialing Home.

Darren Sumner: A little pop-up

David Read: I’m bringing back the pop-up. That’s the thing. We’re not gonna do clips from the show. We’re giving you more information to really enjoy and sink your teeth into. But that’s where we’re at. I’m really excited.

Darren Sumner: Boy, I’ve seen Michael Shanks on stage at conventions for more than 20 years, and you always want to hear one more story that you haven’t heard before. But it’s always been a matter of, man, can somebody in this audience come up with the right question? Can we think of something to ask him …

David Read: That’s hard to do

Darren Sumner: … that’s gonna jog a memory that will be some new piece of information that we haven’t heard him tell the same story 10 times on stage. And it’s pretty rare these days. But the fact that you guys can now sit down, having watched the episode, revisited that corner of his brain, and it sounds like he’s willing to unlock …

David Read: It’s all fresh

Darren Sumner: … and let the fire hose go. He is. We spent half an hour or 40 minutes talking about his casting alone and that whole process we went through. So, there’s gonna be interviews with cast and crew. There’s gonna be recaps. We started with Children of the Gods. We got part one and two done. And there’s gonna be extras, which are, I throw things at him and it’s like, “OK, I wanted you to tell me about this.” And we have those conversations as well. At fullcirclepodcast.com is where you can sign up for that or for the Patreon. You can get in three days early. Everything’s on Patreon. And then it unlocks to YouTube. All of it. We hold nothing back. So, if you don’t wanna be a part of that, you still win. We are using your summaries for every episode. We read the whole summary.

Darren Sumner: Oh, dear.

David Read: So, I know that at some point we’re gonna run out.

Darren Sumner: Some of those are terrible. I apologize.

David Read: It wasn’t… God-awful. But we were like, “Whoa, it skips this whole section of the episode. OK. Let’s fill in some details.” So, we do that.

Darren Sumner: Some of them were written as blurbs and some of them were taken from our original spoiler report. So, I would publish a spoiler report on an unaired episode and get some sketchy plot details from the first half of the episode, and I wouldn’t get around to writing the episode summary, so that would end up being in place of the summary.

David Read: We’re coming for you.

Darren Sumner: So, I apologize

David Read: Maybe something to keep in mind. I’m happy to go look somewhere else, but we go to you guys first. It’s really cool, man.

Darren Sumner: I appreciate that.

David Read: Appreciate you. Anything else?

Darren Sumner: Guys, if you’re just tuning into the stream and are wondering what the breaking Stargate news of the day is, go to gateworld.net and read all about it. And for those of you out there who are sighing or outright bummed or PO’d at the news, I understand you. Like we tell our kids, you have every right to feel your feelings. I hope that we can continue to move together as a fandom, ’cause this is a great fandom. Whatever the next show looks like, whoever’s running it, we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.

David Read: Your perception defines your reality. You may have a perception of things not being particularly fair.

Darren Sumner: You immediately know the candlelight is fire.

David Read: That too. That’s a very Zenist way to approach things. But I’m more talking about… I try to look at my world through a lens of gratitude. We’ve had 354 mostly extraordinary television episodes. And I’m thankful. We have all helped to make Stargate what it is. So, I’m always gonna be receptive to what comes next. And let’s see how far this one gets. Because we’re gonna be around for the next one.

Darren Sumner: Train’s coming around to the next station.

David Read: It is. Indeed.

Darren Sumner: Let’s see what it has for us.

David Read: You hear that, Mr. Anderson? That is the sound of inevitability.

Darren Sumner: Inevitability.

David Read: Love you, brother. Thank you for dropping everything to make this happen. Tell Mrs. Darren hello. I’ll be in touch with you soon, OK?

Darren Sumner: Good. Be well, everyone.

David Read: See you on the other side, guys. Bye now.